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Jonathangsu
7th September 2008, 01:24 AM
I think its obvious that going into our last "warm up" Henton needs to get all the reps with the first team this week. He commands the field much better than Chapple. That second quarter was horrid.

Love to hear your opinions, but Henton is a star in the making. He is still learning our system and our WRs, but he and Raja seemed to have a connection (after the two TDs he ran in, he ran to RAJA for a chest bump). Henton makes the offense multidimensional.



PS:

Hartley....misses two xps in a row and another chip shot field goal. I close my eyes when he kicks now. Its like flipping a coin. Its it too much to ask to be consistent from 35 yds and in? We cant keep losing points.

Walt3412
7th September 2008, 01:27 AM
I think its obvious that going into our last "warm up" Henton needs to get all the reps with the first team this week. He commands the field much better than Chapple. That second quarter was horrid.

Love to hear your opinions, but Henton is a star. He is still learning our system and our WRs, but he and Raja seemed to have a connection (after the two TDs he ran in, he ran to RAJA for a chest bump). Henton makes the offense multidimensional.



PS:

Hartley....misses two xps in a row and another chip shot field goal. I close my eyes when he kicks now. Its like flipping a coin. Its it too much to ask to be consistent from 35 yds and in? We cant keep losing points.

Hard to say considering Chapple got all of 2 series, one of which we scored in. IMO, neither guy did much of anything tonight. And if we're going use the QB like we used Foster last year(like we did the entire 4th quarter), I say put Barney back there.

Eagle22
7th September 2008, 01:33 AM
While Hartley has likely been part of the problem with the kicking game (I think he isn't folllowing through fully when he's pushing it to the right), some of the snaps tonight were pretty bad. The one he line-drived was bounced back to the holder, who never got it set. Frankly I was surprised Hartley even was able to get it airborne.

Saw lots of low snaps back to Henton as well. Once, late in the game, I don't know how Henton salvaged one off the ground in time to hand it to the RB.

Lots of work to be done ...

Jonathangsu
7th September 2008, 01:35 AM
Henton had 103 yards on 9 carries. 11.4 a carry. And he is a threat to throw the ball deep, if we ever decide to run deep routes.

Here is a Q to ponder on. Why did we never go deep to McIntosh? He is a big physical receiver and their CBs were small. Didnt make much sense not to try it.

I dont think Barney would scare anyone into thinking he would pass the ball, but I do LOVE seeing the ball in his hands, whether he is at RB or WR. He is exciting.

How bout RAJA's punt return. SICK.

eaglefan04
7th September 2008, 01:37 AM
Didn't see the game today, just checked the scores here (great job on the game thread guys), but I did see the UGA game last week and it seemed that Henton had a greater handle on the offense. Is there something about Chapple that Hatch is crazy about? Or is he just willing to rotate to keep opposing defenses off beat?

Maybe I just saw it differently between the two qb's. I haven't seen enough of either to say whom I'd like to seem under center. Honestly, I could give a rat's rear end who lines up at qb, as long as they bring wins.

GIEAGLE
7th September 2008, 03:55 AM
Henton had 103 yards on 9 carries. 11.4 a carry. And he is a threat to throw the ball deep, if we ever decide to run deep routes.

Here is a Q to ponder on. Why did we never go deep to McIntosh? He is a big physical receiver and their CBs were small. Didnt make much sense not to try it.

I dont think Barney would scare anyone into thinking he would pass the ball, but I do LOVE seeing the ball in his hands, whether he is at RB or WR. He is exciting.

How bout RAJA's punt return. SICK.Wide outs gotta get separation if they want the ball. Quarterback's gotta have time to get the ball off.

garns 4
7th September 2008, 07:04 AM
I was at the game last night, Henton does not get rattled, he's a cool customer under pressure. Without a doubt, he's our #1 qb. He's got ability to not take sacks. The longer the game rolls on, he rolls on(gets better). Anyone notice, we avg. more yards per rush than per pass?

1peatfor7
7th September 2008, 08:59 AM
IMO by Oct. :enton will be the clear #1 QB. it could be his experience but from what little i've seen so far hentonbrings more options with his running ability.

SwampEagle
7th September 2008, 09:33 AM
Saw lots of low snaps back to Henton as well. If the game is rebroadcast, go back and look at the snaps to Chapple, almost every one he had to bend down and reach for. Even so, Henton just looked crisper than Chapple. What bothered me about Henton was he doesn't mind passing into two and three deep coverage. One of his first passes could have been picked by two different db's. What I like about Henton is that he doesn't mind running. Not quick like Jayson, but enough to get in the secondary.

I think the jury's still out. My bet is that you'll see Hatch continue to test both qb's next week.

01Eagle
7th September 2008, 09:42 AM
I really dont know about QB, neither looked great. It seemed like Chapple hardly played any last night. At one point in the second half I saw him walking on the sideline without his helmet as if there was no way he was going back in the game. Not overly impressed with Henton, does not seem to have great accuracy or a strong arm. He also is not very quick outside the pocket. I have to see more Chapple before i could say for sure, but its not up to me anyway.

Eagle22
7th September 2008, 11:28 AM
If the game is rebroadcast, go back and look at the snaps to Chapple, almost every one he had to bend down and reach for. Even so, Henton just looked crisper than Chapple. What bothered me about Henton was he doesn't mind passing into two and three deep coverage. One of his first passes could have been picked by two different db's. What I like about Henton is that he doesn't mind running. Not quick like Jayson, but enough to get in the secondary.

I think the jury's still out. My bet is that you'll see Hatch continue to test both qb's next week.

Yeah, should have said lot of low snaps period. Chapple played so little in relation to Henton, is the only reason I didn't bring it up.

eaglesrthe1
7th September 2008, 12:35 PM
I would like to see Collins, at least for a series or two. If he doesn't get at least a few snaps under game conditions next week, he probably won't see the field this year... barring injury or mop up duty. Hatcher says the people who practice the best will play, but some people play differently than they practice.

Joseph
7th September 2008, 12:40 PM
I'd go with Henton for the rest of the season, but it is because of the supporting cast that we have not because I think he is better. I'd rather have Chapple running the offense but I dont trust the recievers or the O-line. This could be a rough year if we dont step it up soon.

McEagle
7th September 2008, 01:34 PM
Henton took charge and led the team to victory. I was impressed with him and with the team in general. We tried to self destruct but never gave in. The more Henton players the more comfortable he will get. I think he is the future of this team. He needs to be on the field the vast majority of the time.

I agree with GIeagle above that the receivers need to get seperation.

Go eagles

ks eagle 76
7th September 2008, 02:25 PM
Hard to say considering Chapple got all of 2 series, one of which we scored in. IMO, neither guy did much of anything tonight. And if we're going use the QB like we used Foster last year(like we did the entire 4th quarter), I say put Barney back there.

Coach Walter, I agree with you on this one. If we are going to run from the QB position put Barney back there and go back to last years offense. Has to be better than what we saw last night.

gudp1
7th September 2008, 02:47 PM
Coach Walter, I agree with you on this one. If we are going to run from the QB position put Barney back there and go back to last years offense. Has to be better than what we saw last night.


it is funny to me that when a QB gains 100 yards rushing and leads us to a come from behind victory all of us eagle fans think that was not good enough and the QB should have rushed for 300 yards like jayson foster......

Since the 1st snap of the year henton has seemed smoother and poised. he has made a few ill advised throws but he is picking up the system nicely (5 weeks total) and is getting better each week.

Klak
7th September 2008, 02:52 PM
We lost all the momentum in the game when Chapple came in. He may be a great QB, but right now he does not have "IT".

Henton shows lots of poise in the pocket and is still looking to go downfield even when he scrambles. His speed is really deceptive. Of course he doesn't look fast, after we were all spoiled with Foster last year. But his height makes him seem slower than he actually is. Look at big tall QBs that are runners. Vince Young comes to mind. He was one of the best running QBs in recent years, but he never looked FAST. He just kind of glides down the field.

I really can't see how there is any debate anymore. Henton is the clear leader on the field.

Jonathangsu
7th September 2008, 02:59 PM
I agree. Henton has the ability to lead us for 3 seasons. He is clearly a field general when he is out there.

Did you not notice the flip of the wrist TD pass to Raja??? What an excellant read while scrambling from pressure.

He has made some mistakes, but I think the more comfortable he gets, the more you will see him look off safeties and get people open. We are currently only running 5-wide 8 yard curl patterns for some reason. When the playbook opens up, Henton is the one that will keep the offense cohesive.

Also dont forget we will be getting Zeke Rozier back, and boy will that add an element to our offense that we have been missing. Our RBs have played well, but I would love to see a couple yards AFTER contact.

Henton has all the tools to be a top 5 QB in FCS. He just has to improve every game. He did well vs UGA, did well last night. Now its improve every week. 120 yrds passing and 100 yrds rushing. And so on.

eaglewraith
7th September 2008, 03:18 PM
For the people asking for Barney to be put at QB, remember that he ASKED to be put in the WR/RB hybrid spot.

garns 4
7th September 2008, 03:26 PM
We lost all the momentum in the game when Chapple came in. He may be a great QB, but right now he does not have "IT".

Henton shows lots of poise in the pocket and is still looking to go downfield even when he scrambles. His speed is really deceptive. Of course he doesn't look fast, after we were all spoiled with Foster last year. But his height makes him seem slower than he actually is. Look at big tall QBs that are runners. Vince Young comes to mind. He was one of the best running QBs in recent years, but he never looked FAST. He just kind of glides down the field.

I really can't see how there is any debate anymore. Henton is the clear leader on the field.thank you Klak, for a moment I thought I was watching different GSU games then some. Henton, by FAR is showing he's #1 qb. Tell you the truth, I'd like to see Collins move up to #2.

maconeagle13
7th September 2008, 03:41 PM
I think Chapple throws a much prettier ball than Henton but other than that I don't see anywhere else that he has an advantage. It seems like we just move the ball better when Henton is in there... in both of the first two games. I'll be shocked if Chapple starts against Northeastern.

trusty
7th September 2008, 04:25 PM
I think both QBs are very talented and I am glad we have them. During the 2nd half of the game when we needed points to win it was Henton in the game. I am just saying I like both, but I think it is advantage Henton at this point.

eaglewraith
7th September 2008, 04:31 PM
Chapple has looked really sharp in practice but it seems to take him a long time to settle down in a game, if he even does. Last week he did and looked fairly good, enough so that people were wondering why Henton was on the field anymore. Henton came in last night and showed why he should be the QB. He just looked so much more comfortable and like he had a grip on the game. Yea he's not perfect and makes some mistakes, but he's basically a freshman having only thrown 6 passes at tOSU last year.

Also for the people saying Chapple is more mobile....uhhh...ok, what dimension are you watching? Henton is not a burner by any imagination. We're spoiled from having really fast QB's throughout the years, in the 4.4 area or even faster. Henton has shown he can get it done on his feet.

He also made some smart decisions to get rid of the ball so he wouldn't take a sack.

He has the talent and it seems like he's getting more comfortable with the offense. I think it's pretty much decided who the QB is now.

BillyBob
7th September 2008, 04:41 PM
it is funny to me that when a QB gains 100 yards rushing and leads us to a come from behind victory all of us eagle fans think that was not good enough and the QB should have rushed for 300 yards like jayson foster......

Since the 1st snap of the year henton has seemed smoother and poised. he has made a few ill advised throws but he is picking up the system nicely (5 weeks total) and is getting better each week.

Who has said that we wanted to see Henton rush for 300 yards? I don't think anyone has. We wanted to see a better passing game.


We lost all the momentum in the game when Chapple came in. He may be a great QB, but right now he does not have "IT".

Henton shows lots of poise in the pocket and is still looking to go downfield even when he scrambles. His speed is really deceptive. Of course he doesn't look fast, after we were all spoiled with Foster last year. But his height makes him seem slower than he actually is. Look at big tall QBs that are runners. Vince Young comes to mind. He was one of the best running QBs in recent years, but he never looked FAST. He just kind of glides down the field.

I really can't see how there is any debate anymore. Henton is the clear leader on the field.

Henton played most of the game because our OL was getting owned and we needed someone who could scramble. Chapple is more accurate and has better vision, IMO. We will be using him more than we will be using Henton if the blocking improves.

Walt3412
7th September 2008, 04:48 PM
For the people asking for Barney to be put at QB, remember that he ASKED to be put in the WR/RB hybrid spot.

Maybe that's because of what he thought the offense was going to look like. I wonder if he'd make the same decision if we went back to a read option type offense.

Y'all do realize we had to make a 4th quarter comeback against Austin Peay? I don't know why anyone is impressed with that offensive performance.

GaSou93
7th September 2008, 04:52 PM
Henton just needs to protect the ball a little better, not only running with it, but his passing. He's responsible for, what, 3 turnovers in 2 games?? We can't have that and expect to win.

eaglewraith
7th September 2008, 04:52 PM
Maybe that's because of what he thought the offense was going to look like. I wonder if he'd make the same decision if we went back to a read option type offense.

Y'all do realize we had to make a 4th quarter comeback against Austin Peay? I don't know why anyone is impressed with that offensive performance.

Who said I was impressed? I saw good things yes, but it wasn't an impressive outing. I happy to see the defense spark themselves back alive though, we were missing that at points last year.

There was a lot that could have been better but there's nothing wrong with pointing out some positives, especially with such a young team.

straightshooter
7th September 2008, 04:55 PM
Hatcher commented that AP ran a totally different defensive scheme than we planned for. They only had one game tape to look at, and they did not look like the same team on that tape. It took a while to adjust to the differences.

Jonathangsu
7th September 2008, 04:56 PM
10 yards per carry by your QB is impressive, when the kid can throw the ball 50 yards from his knees. He is a SOPHOMORE. Not a SENIOR. The kid was VERY impressive. Sure he missed a few reads, but he was a field general, plain and simple. Chapple is overwhelmed when he steps on the field.

Like I have said numerous times...Chapple is good.......Henton has the potential to be a Payton Award Winner as a Junior or Senior. Plain and Simple.

Walt3412
7th September 2008, 05:00 PM
10 yards per carry by your QB is impressive, when the kid can throw the ball 50 yards from his knees. He is a SOPHOMORE. Not a SENIOR. The kid was VERY impressive. Sure he missed a few reads, but he was a field general, plain and simple. Chapple is overwhelmed when he steps on the field.

Like I have said numerous times...Chapple is good.......Henton has the potential to be a Payton Award Winner as a Junior or Senior. Plain and Simple.

I don't care if he can throw it 400 yards standing on his head. 10 yards a carry is great...hopefully he'll be able to get that against good teams too.

Jonathangsu
7th September 2008, 05:11 PM
Walt...you missed my point a little there....Henton is far superior of a passer than any QB we have had in the last 8 years. His arm is stronger and more accurate.

One he starts making the "right" decisions with reading the D.....he will be scary.

150 yards rushing and 200 yards passing is a possibility with Henton. Not so much with Chapple.

DestinEagle
7th September 2008, 05:55 PM
I thought Henton looked pretty good considering the factors.

I believe we need to get used to seeing the completions to the mesh routes and flats as well as the speed screen and the bubble screen...we will eventually get a chance to go vertical.

At this point when we take a snap the QB has about 3 seconds before he has to step up and under or flush to the side...that is going to leave the short stuff...many times the verticals happen when the coverage breaks down (Raja TD), that was created by the step up that Henton did...As our O-line gets better we will have more time to hit vertical routes.

eaglesrthe1
7th September 2008, 06:13 PM
Going vertical doesn't mean that you have to chuck it 50 yds or have 5 seconds pocket time. A 20yd slant doesn't take more than 3 seconds of protection for one thing. It just means that you have to be able to hit a moving target.

That's the biggest drawback to the quick outs. While it's an easier completion, the second and a half that it take the ball to get there the receiver is just froze in his tracks waiting. Meanwhile every DB in the area is drawing a bead on him.

ks eagle 76
7th September 2008, 06:30 PM
My take on last nights QB battle. Henton looked much better than Chapple, no doubt. I thought Chapple looked much better against UGA. If we are forced to run the ball like we were last year put Barney in. IMO neither Henton or Chapple will be able to run the ball effectively against better competetion. I hope the offense will improve next week. GSU / CCH is 1-1, IMO, the Hatch Attack is 0-2.

pete4256
7th September 2008, 08:52 PM
Henton made his case last night. He doesn't have blazing speed, but he does have quick feet and he can consistently get yards in this offense. Reminds me of Richie Williams or Duran Lawson in terms of what he can do with his feet. He's just about 40 pounds heavier.

Hopefully he'll get better at executing the passing game with more reps.

I haven't seen Chapple enough to comment, but he hasn't looked that good to me. He does throw a pretty pass (or did against UGA).

Regardless of who plays, if we can't throw the ball better than we have the first two games of the season, it'll be a long year.

gudp1
7th September 2008, 09:44 PM
[QUOTE=BillyBob;985]Who has said that we wanted to see Henton rush for 300 yards? I don't think anyone has. We wanted to see a better passing game.[QUOTE]

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Originally Posted by Walt3412
Hard to say considering Chapple got all of 2 series, one of which we scored in. IMO, neither guy did much of anything tonight. And if we're going use the QB like we used Foster last year(like we did the entire 4th quarter), I say put Barney back there.

Mr. Billy Bob, If you draw into ancient history, we had a QB named Jayson Foster. He could leap single buildings, stop screaming bullets and run for thousands of yards!!

walt said if we are going to use the QB like jayson .......

walt's comment was what i was addressing concerning jayson and also Walt appearing to paint Henton's game yesterday into the style of jayson. i said 300 yards tongue in cheek as a reference to jayson foster's skill.

the game plan and the comparison of the two is unfounded as jayson is the superior runner and henton is the superior passer.

Walt3412
7th September 2008, 11:31 PM
[QUOTE=BillyBob;985]Who has said that we wanted to see Henton rush for 300 yards? I don't think anyone has. We wanted to see a better passing game.[QUOTE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Walt3412
Hard to say considering Chapple got all of 2 series, one of which we scored in. IMO, neither guy did much of anything tonight. And if we're going use the QB like we used Foster last year(like we did the entire 4th quarter), I say put Barney back there.

Mr. Billy Bob, If you draw into ancient history, we had a QB named Jayson Foster. He could leap single buildings, stop screaming bullets and run for thousands of yards!!

walt said if we are going to use the QB like jayson .......

walt's comment was what i was addressing concerning jayson and also Walt appearing to paint Henton's game yesterday into the style of jayson. i said 300 yards tongue in cheek as a reference to jayson foster's skill.

the game plan and the comparison of the two is unfounded as jayson is the superior runner and henton is the superior passer.

The offense we ran for almost the entire second half was what we ran last year with Jayson at QB. All I'm saying is that if we're going to run that, then I'd like to see a faster, shiftier type runner.

The Duke
8th September 2008, 12:30 AM
10 yards per carry by your QB is impressive, when the kid can throw the ball 50 yards from his knees.*%^# He is a SOPHOMORE.*%^# Not a SENIOR.*%^#*%^# The kid was VERY impressive.*%^# Sure he missed a few reads, but he was a field general, plain and simple.*%^# Chapple is overwhelmed when he steps on the field.*%^# Like I have said numerous times...Chapple is good.......Henton has the potential to be a Payton Award Winner as a Junior or Senior.*%^#*%^# Plain and Simple.

Jonathangsu....If I needed someone to scout a game it would be you. For the second consecutive week, I think you've made the best observations.....that I've read anyway. There is no quarterback controversy in my mind....and I hope it's true for Coach Hatcher too.

Antonio Henton moves this football team when he's under center. We get first downs and we score points. What else can we ask other than for the team to get better around him. Believe me, the SoCon coaches who've seen a little film of us already are hoping that we don't see Henton as anything special. They would love to prepare for Chappel instead. Especially those teams that want to bring pressure on the QB.

Don't get me wrong, I like Chappel and he's going to make a fine QB. But I just don't think that his time is now though. Chappel came out of sping ball as our starting QB but clearly it's not hard to notice that since then The Ohio State University graced us with this big stallion named Antonio Henton.

Folks, OSU Coach Jim Tressel knows talent. He knew Antonio's up side, that's why he snapped this kid up from Peach County in the first place. And had OSU not signed the nation's top QB this year they wouldn't have given up Antonio so easily. We have a huge gift here my friends. Lets a least be thankful and use him.

There are coaches at the 1A level still wondering how in the hell we got Antonio in the first place. We had better play this kid or it will set our program back a few more years.....IMO anyway.

The Duke

ditka4prez
8th September 2008, 12:35 AM
Enough with the Jayson Foster comparisons, comparing Foster to Henton is like comparing apples to oranges. Jayson is 5-7 175, Antonio is 6-1 240. Jayson Foster is a once a decade type talent that has blazing speed and unprecedented athleticism, he was an athlete that happened to play QB. Antonio Henton is a Quaterback who just happens to be athletic, nowhere near the same speed, but he's bigger and has a stronger arm. Comparing the two is completely unfair, I'd say pete4256 who compared Henton to Lawson and Williams, is closer to the truth.

Jonathangsu
8th September 2008, 01:28 AM
Thanks Duke,

I agree also, I think we sometimes see a biased for our "recruited" players vs. tranfers. When you have tunnel vision, its hard to see anything other than what you want to see.

Ingle Martin made some STUPID plays at Furman, but he single handidly beat us.

I still laugh to myself when I read people wanting Barney at QB. I mean seriously? I want the ball in his hands 15-20 times a game, but by throwing him screens and reverses and using him in the backfield with henton.

NO WAY he can see over the line we have this year. The kid is too small.

O..BTW I mentioned this earlier.....ZEKE ROZIER will be back soon!!! What a huge boost that will be with him in the rotation as well!!!!

With Henton taking snaps with the first string and progressing as the season goes....this team could win the Southern Conference. Great WR corps, deep at RB, line will come around with some experience, and the Defense is very capable.

GATA EAGLES!!!!!

Walt3412
8th September 2008, 01:49 AM
Thanks Duke,

I agree also, I think we sometimes see a biased for our "recruited" players vs. tranfers. When you have tunnel vision, its hard to see anything other than what you want to see.

Ingle Martin made some STUPID plays at Furman, but he single handidly beat us.

I still laugh to myself when I read people wanting Barney at QB. I mean seriously? I want the ball in his hands 15-20 times a game, but by throwing him screens and reverses and using him in the backfield with henton.

NO WAY he can see over the line we have this year. The kid is too small.

O..BTW I mentioned this earlier.....ZEKE ROZIER will be back soon!!! What a huge boost that will be with him in the rotation as well!!!!

With Henton taking snaps with the first string and progressing as the season goes....this team could win the Southern Conference. Great WR corps, deep at RB, line will come around with some experience, and the Defense is very capable.

GATA EAGLES!!!!!


Tunnel vision my @$$. I see the same bias from people who think that anyone from "The" Ohio State University is better than anything on our roster. You do realize that Barney is bigger than our last QB...nobody thought he was too small.
I give up though...it's obvious this decision was made the minute Henton decided to transfer.

eaglewraith
8th September 2008, 07:10 AM
Tunnel vision my @$$. I see the same bias from people who think that anyone from "The" Ohio State University is better than anything on our roster. You do realize that Barney is bigger than our last QB...nobody thought he was too small.
I give up though...it's obvious this decision was made the minute Henton decided to transfer.

I was fully behind Chapple coming into the first game based on what I'd seen and heard from practice. However, until he stops looking like a deer in the headlights in the pocket and not doing something to make a play then he doesn't need to be in there.

Raptor23
8th September 2008, 08:01 AM
I think that Henton is the QB next week, but something not talked about was the play calling in the second half.....we didn't throw that bubbll screen every other play and we ran more....even threw a couple deep patterns. We ran the draw or straight runs form the QB also. I just think the coach did a btter job of calling plays in the second half.

Walt3412
8th September 2008, 08:47 AM
I was fully behind Chapple coming into the first game based on what I'd seen and heard from practice. However, until he stops looking like a deer in the headlights in the pocket and not doing something to make a play then he doesn't need to be in there.

He didn't look like a deer in the headlights against UGA...other than the first couple of drives where his WR's dropped everything, he led some nice drives, stood in there under heavy pressure, and made some nice throws. Then he gets all of a couple of drives in the AP game, one of which we scored on, and everyone says he didn't show them anything...well yeah, I guess he didn't show me anything either since HE DIDN'T HARDLY GET A CHANCE TO PLAY. He was 3 for 6 for the entire game.

KepGSU
8th September 2008, 08:49 AM
I don't think Lee got a fair shot this week for us to judge him. However, I do think that Henton played fairly well. It's already been said, but he is still learning the offense. I thought he made a couple bad throws, and got lucky that they were not picked off. As long as our QBs don't turn the ball over, I think the offense will be fine this year. And once they all get a little more experience, they'll be very good. I know a lot of people are not impressed with the Hatch Attack so far. Hatcher said that vs UGA the only used one page of the play book, and that they will probably only use about 1/2 a page vs APSU. They are still learning the offense, and will be fine once they can open the play book more. Yeah we kept running a lot of the same plays over and over again, but that just shows the talent of this young team. They put 21 against and 34 this past week running the same few plays. I'm excited to see the play book opened more. That plus this talent will equal wicked nasty. Plus if our D can play the rest of the year like they did in the 4th quarter, we won't have to score but 17 or 20 to win. I know that's kind of a big if, but the D showed us that they can get pumped, get focused, and be a lockdown Defense.

BoroNative
8th September 2008, 08:53 AM
Henton throws a rainbow ball that's more easily picked off. I prefer Chapple's passing game. It just turns out that we haven't developed the passing game like we will in the future. I agree that if you want a running QB, Henton is your guy. He showed me that on Saturday. I think we'll have trouble developing our passing game until our line can hold a pocket and give our QB's time to check the recievers. If I had to pick one QB for the next 3 years, it'd be Chapple. After our passing attack develops, he'll be the guy. I had hoped to get to see Collins after we got a good lead, but we never got a good lead with time left for him to play. Maybe next week.

KJ Eagle
8th September 2008, 08:58 AM
I just don't understand why people are saying that Chapple looks like a deer caught in the headlights. He barely got any playing time this week and when he did, he led us on a TD drive. Hatcher has said many times that it is basically up to who has the hot hand. Henton was hot in the second half, so why take him out. I agree with that and it worked. I just wish that Lee had another shot or two. I want them BOTH to continue to develop. We have two good QB's right now. With a little playing time under their belts, we are going to have two great QB's in the next year or two.

gsugt1
8th September 2008, 11:27 AM
At this time I would play Henton. If he struggles give LC a chance.

LOVETTMAN
8th September 2008, 11:31 AM
eaglesrth1
garns4
boro native

Guys thanks for the comments on Kyle. We really believe he'll get his shot. Remember, Kyle was a Van Gorder preferred walk on. Attracted by Pro Style Spread / Drop Back new offensive scheme plan. Invited to camp at the last minute after deciding against baseball.

VG leaves after making some big promises to Collins. Good for GSU, unfortunate timing for Kyle. Coach H comes in. Hatch Attack arrives. (Kyle knows it and believes in it - big time ) Kyle has big spring game.

Coach negotiates former recruitee from DI program - Lowe. Great Kid - Friend to Kyle. First Big New Scholarship. Coach recruits high profile talented QB - L Chappel. Great Boy. Friend of Kyle. Kyle actually assists in recruiting process for Coach H.
Henton becomes available. OC and Coach naturally jump at the opp. Good move.

Coach's new scheme needs players. His job is to man up the team with best he can find that is available. The business end of the game requires scholarships to take the lead over walk ons. Just the way it is. Especially your first highly touted one and D1 transfers. Kyle is fine with that. He continues to work very hard every day. Coach has to justify his decisions on scholarships on the field. He's giving the top scholarships every opportunity to prove themselves. Very understandable.

When Kyle gets his shot, he'll either succeed or fail. He's a big kid. He's very mature. He understands his position.

You guys know that I am naturally biased. You just need to see him throw that ball. His accuracy, field vision, quick release and arm strength is what we need. He may be the tallest player on the field. I can't wait for the Eagle nation to see him get a sustained game shot.

Maybe it will happen. Maybe it won't anytime soon. In the meantime, Kyle’s a team player pushing for wins and another NC Flag on that pole.

KJ Eagle
8th September 2008, 11:45 AM
eaglesrth1
garns4
boro native

Guys thanks for the comments on Kyle. We really believe he'll get his shot. Remember, Kyle was a Van Gorder preferred walk on. Attracted by Pro Style Spread / Drop Back new offensive scheme plan. Invited to camp at the last minute after deciding against baseball.

VG leaves after making some big promises to Collins. Good for GSU, unfortunate timing for Kyle. Coach H comes in. Hatch Attack arrives. (Kyle knows it and believes in it - big time ) Kyle has big spring game.

Coach negotiates former recruitee from DI program - Lowe. Great Kid - Friend to Kyle. First Big New Scholarship. Coach recruits high profile talented QB - L Chappel. Great Boy. Friend of Kyle. Kyle actually assists in recruiting process for Coach H.
Henton becomes available. OC and Coach naturally jump at the opp. Good move.

Coach's new scheme needs players. His job is to man up the team with best he can find that is available. The business end of the game requires scholarships to take the lead over walk ons. Just the way it is. Especially your first highly touted one and D1 transfers. Kyle is fine with that. He continues to work very hard every day. Coach has to justify his decisions on scholarships on the field. He's giving the top scholarships every opportunity to prove themselves. Very understandable.

When Kyle gets his shot, he'll either succeed or fail. He's a big kid. He's very mature. He understands his position.

You guys know that I am naturally biased. You just need to see him throw that ball. His accuracy, field vision, quick release and arm strength is what we need. He may be the tallest player on the field. I can't wait for the Eagle nation to see him get a sustained game shot.

Maybe it will happen. Maybe it won't anytime soon. In the meantime, Kyle’s a team player pushing for wins and another NC Flag on that pole.

Thanks for that info and for Kyle being a true Eagle when it comes to TEAM me.

I agree that he looked really sharp in the spring game. I would love to see what he can do in a real game situation. But unfortunately, as with a lot of things, timing is everything sometimes. Just make sure he keeps his head up and realizes that we are all behind every Eagle, no matter if they are the starters or not! Unfortunately, the starters get the most "ink"...

BoroNative
8th September 2008, 11:46 AM
That's a GREAT attitude he has and I'm glad you both see it that way. I have been a fan of his for a while. I think his strong points you point out will be very valuable when we get a line that can protect him.

Thank him for his dedication to the TEAM.

Go Eagles.

McEagle
8th September 2008, 12:50 PM
Yes. A great attitude on the part of both you and Kyle. Even if I had the qualifications to be a head college coach I dont think I would have the stomach to make decisions about starting QBs like that. Especially the ones I recruited. I hope he gets his chance.

eagle21
8th September 2008, 01:11 PM
eaglesrth1
garns4
boro native

Guys thanks for the comments on Kyle. We really believe he'll get his shot. Remember, Kyle was a Van Gorder preferred walk on. Attracted by Pro Style Spread / Drop Back new offensive scheme plan. Invited to camp at the last minute after deciding against baseball.

VG leaves after making some big promises to Collins. Good for GSU, unfortunate timing for Kyle. Coach H comes in. Hatch Attack arrives. (Kyle knows it and believes in it - big time ) Kyle has big spring game.

Coach negotiates former recruitee from DI program - Lowe. Great Kid - Friend to Kyle. First Big New Scholarship. Coach recruits high profile talented QB - L Chappel. Great Boy. Friend of Kyle. Kyle actually assists in recruiting process for Coach H.
Henton becomes available. OC and Coach naturally jump at the opp. Good move.

Coach's new scheme needs players. His job is to man up the team with best he can find that is available. The business end of the game requires scholarships to take the lead over walk ons. Just the way it is. Especially your first highly touted one and D1 transfers. Kyle is fine with that. He continues to work very hard every day. Coach has to justify his decisions on scholarships on the field. He's giving the top scholarships every opportunity to prove themselves. Very understandable.

When Kyle gets his shot, he'll either succeed or fail. He's a big kid. He's very mature. He understands his position.

You guys know that I am naturally biased. You just need to see him throw that ball. His accuracy, field vision, quick release and arm strength is what we need. He may be the tallest player on the field. I can't wait for the Eagle nation to see him get a sustained game shot.

Maybe it will happen. Maybe it won't anytime soon. In the meantime, Kyle’s a team player pushing for wins and another NC Flag on that pole.

BIG TEAM -- little me, at is finest!!

The Kyle Collins' of the world win Championships!! Always be ready, just ask Matt Cassels (Patriots)

GO EAGLES!!

garns 4
8th September 2008, 07:01 PM
All I know is Kyle threw for OVER 300 yds in the Blue/white game 2 yrs ago. He's BIG and it will take a hard rush to bring him down, and he moves pretty quick. He impressed me. With the HATCH ATTACK, you'd think you'd want a bigger(taller), stronger kid back there. But, what do I know, I'm just an old baseball player.

GIEAGLE
9th September 2008, 12:21 AM
I think that Henton is the QB next week, but something not talked about was the play calling in the second half.....we didn't throw that bubbll screen every other play and we ran more....even threw a couple deep patterns. We ran the draw or straight runs form the QB also. I just think the coach did a btter job of calling plays in the second half.Yep. I agree with the "better job of calling plays in the second half". Whoever's playing quarterback for us better be able to execute the "zone read" plays, in addition to putting the ball on the money, on time, to the right receiver. Good defensive teams aren't just gonna let us "dink & dump" 'em all night. Thanks Coach Hatcher, for making the adjustments.

Can Chapple run the "zone read" plays as well as Henton? Can't honestly say I've seen him try to "run" much.

trueblueeagle
9th September 2008, 12:32 AM
Ya'll dont jump on me but i think Henton will be our starting qb for next few years.

gsu_paintballer
9th September 2008, 12:33 AM
Ya'll dont jump on me but i think Henton will be our starting qb for next few years.

:eek: I'm going to agree with you :eek:

trueblueeagle
9th September 2008, 12:34 AM
Well paintballer thats mighty kind of you.

Soweagle
9th September 2008, 11:56 AM
After reading LOVETTMAN's post I'm hoping this young man gets a legitimate shot in a game situation.