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    IDK.

    There are good arguments on both sides.

    But in the real world, stuff is the same.

    I remember seeing some financials at my last company.... One figure which stood out was ‘revenue per employee.’ At that company, the number was nearly $700k. My total compensation was around 100k..... Some employees made more, but many made far less.

    The way I lean is that everything in life is a contract. Some people have an issue with a company taking in 700k per employee, yet some employees only making 30k. Well... It’s a free country, improve your skills. Get a better job.

    Also, that company keeps coughing up a paycheck when it loses money, and in my industry there have been far more losing years than winning ones.

    I tend to come down on the ‘players are already being compensated’ side. They know they will work hard for a degree, and they know some of them will go pro. It’s a gamble, but a pretty good one.... Sure, certain players generate a lot more revenue than others, but that’s no different than any business they will work at. Some skills sets are more valuable. At the very least, they will get a degree others had to pay a couple hundred grand for.

    I think its a matter of perspective. We all choose to participate in agreements to work for compensation. It’s the basis of capitalism. If the agreement isn’t satisfactory, do something else. Go to the NFL early, or drop out and work. Whatever. It’s an opportunity, and a really good one. Pretending it’s servitude is silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Touchdown View Post
    You could probably get away with immediate, but to stay away from a "changing the deal" potential additional law suit was what I was shooting for. If that had been started when this first hit, we'd be almost done with the process. It could be a non issue by now.

    I hear a lot of people on here supporting this pay fo the players and it is very concerning.
    While it may sound like a good idea at first,
    THIS has the potential to be VERY VERY BAD for Georgia Southern Football and the entire G5.

    The amount of money they could make is going to be greatly impacted by how big their stage of stardom is. The cover pic guys on a game could get tons of $. That's going to be p5 players. How would you stop them from doing commercials for a booster's company?
    This could easily open the flood Gates for straight up paying players to come to particular schools. They won't need to tie up scholarships, they can just get a kid a "job"even with no intention to play him just to keep them off other rosters. Unless all money taken in was put into a fund and divided evenly among all NCAA players (and I don't support socialism), you are going to see major unfair market advantages by the power 5. The gap between us and them will only widen if this passes.

    I don’t get how this would change anything. The “best players” are already going to P5 schools so it would have zero affect on us.

    And how many kids who want to play college football is going to take a non guaranteed “job” to ride the bench over a guaranteed scholarship and a chance to play? Some will do it because we already see a few kids taking PWO spots at P5’s over scholarships at G5’s but those are few and far between.
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    I agree with the idea that the scholarship is already compensation... however, no player should be barred from using their OWN likeness to make money. The NCAA can still make plenty of $$$ without putting this restriction on players.

    The amateurism idea is dead I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Eagles_Cliff View Post
    I wish there was a way to force the NFL to create a farm system like MLB. All the 5 stars and many others would be off the table and more parity would exist. G5 schools will field teams from time to time that challenge the Top 10 and their coach will be poached soon after.
    Schools like GS are challenged with educating its immediate market about the existence of themselves while media conglomerates discuss the same 30 schools for hours on TV, radio, print, and internet.
    The NFL gets players developed and many state taxpayers subsidize the process.
    I've liked GS football for years because it's TRUE college football. Most of the players are at the end of their football careers.
    It's OK that G5 and FCS exist. It's still fun. Keeping up with the Rockefellers is a fantasy.

    A NFL farm system wouldn’t create a single bit of parity in college football. It would just make the overall product much worse. If all the 5* and high 4* kids went to a NFL developmental league then UGA vs Alabama becomes what South Carolina vs Miss St currently is. And South Carolina vs Miss St becomes what Ga Southern vs App St currently is. And Ga Southern vs App St becomes what Furman vs Elon currently is. And on down the line until you have D3 games that are nothing but a bunch of kids who are barely good enough to play intramural football.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz Killington View Post
    I agree with the idea that the scholarship is already compensation... however, no player should be barred from using their OWN likeness to make money. The NCAA can still make plenty of $$$ without putting this restriction on players.

    The amateurism idea is dead I think.
    I agree with that.

    Definitely they should be able to license their own likeness.

    The big issue in all this is the NCAA itself. They have a cartel which need to be dealt with somehow. If we somehow had enough sense to see the harms of robber-barons and break up their monopolies or cartels, we should have enough sense to change the way the NCAA operates. They are just the robber barons of college sports.

    I’m generally a small government type of guy who loves the free market philosophy. But cartels have nothing to do with free markets, and the way the NCAA abuses its power shouldn’t be allowed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by half-n-half View Post
    A NFL farm system wouldn’t create a single bit of parity in college football. It would just make the overall product much worse. If all the 5* and high 4* kids went to a NFL developmental league then UGA vs Alabama becomes what South Carolina vs Miss St currently is. And South Carolina vs Miss St becomes what Ga Southern vs App St currently is. And Ga Southern vs App St becomes what Furman vs Elon currently is. And on down the line until you have D3 games that are nothing but a bunch of kids who are barely good enough to play intramural football.
    I have my doubts about that. I'm not denying Alabama and UGA would still get their first pick of players. But as you get farther and farther from the highest ability level you have significantly more people. The overwhelming majority of NFL draftees are three or four-star guys because there's a whole lot more of them.

    I would also argue the existence of the minor leagues in baseball makes it possible for Coastal Carolina to win a national championship and for UL Lafayette to make two super regionals (basically the Sweet 16 of baseball) in a row. If the best high school baseball players went to college instead of the minors it would have far less parity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by half-n-half View Post
    A NFL farm system wouldn’t create a single bit of parity in college football. It would just make the overall product much worse. If all the 5* and high 4* kids went to a NFL developmental league then UGA vs Alabama becomes what South Carolina vs Miss St currently is. And South Carolina vs Miss St becomes what Ga Southern vs App St currently is. And Ga Southern vs App St becomes what Furman vs Elon currently is. And on down the line until you have D3 games that are nothing but a bunch of kids who are barely good enough to play intramural football.
    Stop putting thUGA alongside Alabama. Put them alongside with their kin. South Carolina and the likes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eskimojoe View Post
    Stop putting thUGA alongside Alabama. Put them alongside with their kin. South Carolina and the likes.
    ThUGA’s kin is more along the lines of the guys on the community service detail by the side of the highway.... In fact, the chain gang guys probably have shorter rap sheets

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    Quote Originally Posted by half-n-half View Post
    A NFL farm system wouldn’t create a single bit of parity in college football. It would just make the overall product much worse. If all the 5* and high 4* kids went to a NFL developmental league then UGA vs Alabama becomes what South Carolina vs Miss St currently is. And South Carolina vs Miss St becomes what Ga Southern vs App St currently is. And Ga Southern vs App St becomes what Furman vs Elon currently is. And on down the line until you have D3 games that are nothing but a bunch of kids who are barely good enough to play intramural football.
    So? I would be willing to consider such a trade-off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBob View Post
    I have my doubts about that. I'm not denying Alabama and UGA would still get their first pick of players. But as you get farther and farther from the highest ability level you have significantly more people. The overwhelming majority of NFL draftees are three or four-star guys because there's a whole lot more of them.

    I would also argue the existence of the minor leagues in baseball makes it possible for Coastal Carolina to win a national championship and for UL Lafayette to make two super regionals (basically the Sweet 16 of baseball) in a row. If the best high school baseball players went to college instead of the minors it would have far less parity.
    I like the baseball analogy. It doesn’t quite hold together due to roster size differences and scholarship limitations, but I doubt that many college baseball fans spend their time wishing the sport was more like NCAA football.
    Last edited by pete4256; 20th May 2019 at 02:21 PM.
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