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Thread: What do you consider the "golden era" of FCS football?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Eagles_Cliff View Post
    I think pre-2000's because the internet allows FBS schools to find talent that used to be overlooked and picked up by FCS programs. There's still not a lot of difference on the field between the top of FCS and the bottom 50 of FBS, except the top of FCS probably wins those games.
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    Just based on who was broadcasting the title game, you can get a pretty good idea of when I-AA/FCS stopped being a viable alternative to I-A/FBS and started becoming "lower level" football.

    1978 - ABC
    1979 - ABC
    1980 - ABC
    1981 - ABC
    1982 - CBS
    1983 - ABC
    1984 - Satellite Program Network
    1985 - ESPN (Mike Patrick)
    1986 - ESPN (Tim Brando)
    1987 - ESPN
    1988 - ESPN (Tim Brando)
    1989 - ESPN
    1990 - CBS (Jim Nantz)
    1991 - CBS (Brad Nessler)
    1992 - CBS (Jim Nantz)
    1993 - CBS
    1994 - CBS
    1995 - ESPN
    1996 - ESPN
    1997 - ESPN
    1998 - ESPN
    1999 - ESPN
    2000 - ESPN
    2001 - ESPN
    2002 - ESPN2
    2003 - ESPN2
    2004 - ESPN2
    2005 - ESPN2
    2006 - ESPN2
    2007 - ESPN2
    2008 - ESPN2
    2009 - ESPN2
    2010 - ESPN2
    2011 - ESPN2
    2012 - ESPN2
    2013 - ESPN2
    2014 - ESPN2
    2015 - ESPN2
    2016 - ESPN2
    2017 - ESPN2
    2018 - ESPN2

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Eagles_Cliff View Post
    I think pre-2000's because the internet allows FBS schools to find talent that used to be overlooked and picked up by FCS programs. There's still not a lot of difference on the field between the top of FCS and the bottom 50 of FBS, except the top of FCS probably wins those games.
    How big of a top are we talking? As in, the best 2 maybe 3 every year versus the very bottom of the FBS? Then, yeah, they actually may be favorites. But, if you're arguing you could grab a name of out of the playoff bracket and be hands down favorites against someone ranked 80 in FBS?

    Here's the teams that ended last season in that range:

    67. USC
    68. SDSU
    69. Arkansas State
    70. MTSU
    71. Maryland
    72. VT
    73. USF
    74. Nebraska
    75. Texas Tecah
    76. Kansas State
    77. Miamo (OH)
    78. Tennessee
    79. Nevada
    80. USM
    81. EMU
    82. Hawaii
    83. Indiana
    84. Toledo
    85. Louisiana
    86. Florida State

    Just wanted to make sure I'm understanding your argument here.

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    The number of FCS programs that could replicate what we, App, and Marshall did in our FBS transition can be counted on one hand, and I'm not sure about Montana and Delaware anymore. Those teams have been down more than just a few years.
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    Default Re: What do you consider the "golden era" of FCS football?

    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBob View Post
    The number of FCS programs that could replicate what we, App, and Marshall did in our FBS transition can be counted on one hand, and I'm not sure about Montana and Delaware anymore. Those teams have been down more than just a few years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Demoralizer View Post
    How big of a top are we talking? As in, the best 2 maybe 3 every year versus the very bottom of the FBS? Then, yeah, they actually may be favorites. But, if you're arguing you could grab a name of out of the playoff bracket and be hands down favorites against someone ranked 80 in FBS?

    Here's the teams that ended last season in that range:

    67. USC
    68. SDSU
    69. Arkansas State
    70. MTSU
    71. Maryland
    72. VT
    73. USF
    74. Nebraska
    75. Texas Tecah
    76. Kansas State
    77. Miamo (OH)
    78. Tennessee
    79. Nevada
    80. USM
    81. EMU
    82. Hawaii
    83. Indiana
    84. Toledo
    85. Louisiana
    86. Florida State

    Just wanted to make sure I'm understanding your argument here.
    To play devil's advocate, he said bottom 50 so that's 80-130 not 67-86. Having said that "Bottom 50" might be a stretch. There are too many factors to consider. Like you said, are we talking NDSU vs the bottom 50 or are we talking a team that is ranked 15-20 in the FCS?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KJ Eagle View Post
    To play devil's advocate, he said bottom 50 so that's 80-130 not 67-86. Having said that "Bottom 50" might be a stretch. There are too many factors to consider. Like you said, are we talking NDSU vs the bottom 50 or are we talking a team that is ranked 15-20 in the FCS?
    Indeed, just wanted to highlight those teams close to that end of the range. I think sometimes people just register garbage teams when they think bottom 50, however, depending on the year, there are still some solid programs just having an off year.

    There are 3 or less FCS teams, IMO, that could compete yearly in the FBS. I think that overlap is shrinking every year.
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    History has shown that a majority of the time, the teams that have moved up from FCS....which you would think should be some of the top teams in FCS at the time.....can't even compete against the bottom 50 of FBS once they are FBS so the notion that a whole block of "top" FCS teams can compete as FCS is just puffery. Here's a throwback refresher. Check out the near 50% drop in winning seasons at the time the article came out.
    https://www.espn.com/blog/ncfnation/...lenge-for-most

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBob View Post
    The number of FCS programs that could replicate what we, App, and Marshall did in our FBS transition can be counted on one hand, and I'm not sure about Montana and Delaware anymore. Those teams have been down more than just a few years.
    Over time, I think it would happen more than you would think. IMO it just depends on the conference they join (SoS), which is likely to be a G4 conference and increase their odds of experiencing some success.

    I mean, App, Marshall and GS did not beat anybody worth mentioning in our first year of FBS. IIRC, none of us beat a P5, or a ranked team or even a top 50 team.

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    I’m tempted to say 1989-1990, but the following half-decade of Youngstown vs Marshall was pretty heavy.

    Really, though, take a look at the semi-finalists from about 1985 to 2009. How many of those teams have gone on to anchor G5 conferences?

    The answer is a lot, with many of them being heavy hitters in their states’ public university systems.

    There aren’t very many of those schools left in today’s FCS.
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