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Thread: GS vs. Arkansas State Game Thread - 10/5/2016

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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglewraith View Post
    Be wary of a wounded and cornered wolf.
    There was a player only meeting yesterday, and the AD met with Blake Anderson today as well. Anderson already has had to give the dreaded "Vote of confidence" to our OC

    Our problems are multifold:

    1. Beginning in 2014, we began to slowly feel the effects of all of the coaching changes. In Both 2011 and 2012, we did not manage to recruit an offensive lineman and keep them on campus. Ditto for the defensive line. Freeze and Malzahn inherited teams with a STRONG OL, and chose instead to recruit for the skill positions, where we were lacking a little more. Most of those skill players were around through last season when they all graduated out. Harsin came in for 2013 realizing that the offensive and defensive lines were in urgent need of fresh bodies, and he started to recruit them to campus, but again left after a year, so some of his recruits never showed up. Anderson saw the consequences of this in 2014 when our DLine couldn't stop Troy's marching band, much less an average football team. He began to recruit for the OL, but chose to fill much of the holes on both sides of the line with JUCO Players, leading to point 2.

    2. The extreme inbalance of recruiting classes by position, and a desire to try and do what everyone else had done here, led to Anderson recruiting the JUCO ranks heavily, and signing multiple Blue shirts (Players who don't sign in February, and show up in August and count towards the next recruiting class) The downside of Blueshirts and JUCO's is they often are in those positions for a reason. We took risks on character issues, took risks on grade issues, and took risks on kids with little football experience. We signed kids that other teams didn't want, and trusted Anderson's ability to recognize talent. We then went behind them and recruit large numbers of FBS transfers, who again, transferred for a reason. In 2015, we signed more players out of Canada than we did out of the entire state of Arkansas. While Arkansas talent will never win awards, it's a sign that we were after the kids no one knew about.

    3. In the offseason, we lost 3 critical coaches on the offensive side of the ball. OL, RB, and QB/OC. We hired replacements at OL and RB, and both immediately jumped ship less than a week after reaching campus for other jobs. The OC was our first choice, but left Middle when there were rumors that he might be fired anyway. All three positions happen to be our biggest weak spots right now. That's simply not a coincidence. The players have simply yet to really come to an understanding with their position coaches, and worse, an understanding with their team leaders. We've got players pointing fingers at each other, coaches who often look dazed and confused on the sideline, and angry fans

    4. These players believed their own hype. Blake Anderson said publicly this season that he thought this team could go 12-0. He actually stated the team's goal was to play in the Cotton Bowl. The players talked about winning another championship, like it was going to be handed to us. What this managed to do was alienate the fans. Now you don't just have frustrated fans, you have fans who were specifically promised greatness, and are getting the opposite, and the anger is real. There have been a lot of very pointed questions asked of Anderson during his sessions with fans. There have been arguments between players and fans over social media, and the booing has been rampant, to the point that it's actually led to Anderson changing his mind mid game on a play call.

    This isn't a wounded animal. Georgia Southern is sort of like the hiker who comes across a pack of Wolves in the wilderness, and rather than attacking the hiker, the Wolves all turn and attack each other over who gets to eat the hiker first, leading to no one getting the food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefsfan View Post
    This isn't a wounded animal. Georgia Southern is sort of like the hiker who comes across a pack of Wolves in the wilderness, and rather than attacking the hiker, the Wolves all turn and attack each other over who gets to eat the hiker first, leading to no one getting the food.
    I hope you're right. I watched your game lass night, although with less than full attention as I was doing other things at the same time, but... It looked like there were shards of quality that might be assembled into something good. Please defer that process for one more game.

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    I thought Ark St's had a QB transfer from Pitt - Chad Voytik? Didn't play last game. He was supposed to be their difference maker. Anyone know if he was injured / just a flop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chriswhite71 View Post
    I thought Ark St's had a QB transfer from Pitt - Chad Voytik? Didn't play last game. He was supposed to be their difference maker. Anyone know if he was injured / just a flop?

    I do not believe he is injured, looks like a flop. I watched him start in the Utah State game, and they pulled him. I think that is what happen in the Toledo game, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chriswhite71 View Post
    I thought Ark St's had a QB transfer from Pitt - Chad Voytik? Didn't play last game. He was supposed to be their difference maker. Anyone know if he was injured / just a flop?
    He made a bunch of really poor decisions in the Utah State game that led to him being pulled. Hansen outperformed him this year and got the job.

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    This is a huge game for both teams. Each has a chance to change the narrative of its season.

    I think Southern will benefit from the extra time to regroup. If I had any confidence that our QBs were reasonably healthy, I'd feel ok about our chances.
    Green Bastard
    Parts Unknown

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete4256 View Post
    This is a huge game for both teams. Each has a chance to change the narrative of its season.

    I think Southern will benefit from the extra time to regroup. If I had any confidence that our QBs were reasonably healthy, I'd feel ok about our chances.
    Throw em a curveball and start Shuman and pass 85% of the snaps

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    All I know is we better be ready to play and bring our A game. We will be walking into a hornets nest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdarnell233 View Post
    Throw em a curveball and start Shuman and pass 85% of the snaps
    No thanks!

    (Unless we have to)
    Green Bastard
    Parts Unknown

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdarnell233 View Post
    Throw em a curveball and start Shuman and pass 85% of the snaps
    After the two hits Anthony took on his two plays I'm sure he would be OK with that.

    I understand why Summers does it, but I hate this whole not speaking about injuries thing. But if he's not sharing the status of a 2nd team defensive end there's no way he's going to share the status of our QBs. If 10 days is long enough to get either Upshaw or Ellison healthy I think we win by 10 points. Arkansas State seems to be having the year UL Lafayette had last year. Even with all the concerns I have I think we win this game.

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